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    Hi Guys ,A friend of mine just came back from England after touring a few of the prestigious traditional metal shaping work shops in England. He made a few notes which i thought i would share with you guys.

  • #2
    thanks for posting that peter it was great to read, feeling kind of envious to be honest, he met a lot of talented guys!
    thanks neil


    • #3
      Great Read!


      • #4
        Thanks for posting the link, Peter. It's good to see him mention things like the stubbornness towards tradition, the typically brutal social and physical environment of the workplace and there being no substitute for truly apprenticing under a bona fide Master. These are truths to becoming an actual Master.

        Looking in from my finite and diminishing traditional stonecraft world, traditional metalcraft is everywhere by comparison with many Masters doing traditional work with multiple employees. If this is what you want to do for a career, do not squander the opportunity that still exists.


        • #5
          Just read the entire article. What a great experience and that must have been.
          Thanks for posting it Peter.
          David Bradbury


          • #6
            As you all can see my opinion , for good quality work in reasonable quick time, it's the only way to go .. never mind about the ''other'' person saying .... [ quote]
            ''I do not follow the traditional way, there are many ways to do the job, and the way that I teach and work is just as good'' ..... [end of quote]

            well ......I leave up to you to decide

            In another note.. this Month I will finish the video on the Ferrari nose panel ..I have just been busy with other projects .
            Peter T.


            • #7
              Bloody hell this is sooooo good Pete.... thank you very much .was it a young lad called Kip ?????
              one more Top Gent is Pete Southan....... he worked at CMC jaguar and was responsible for remaking this very special Jaguar..... just WOW.
              he now makes bodies for evolution E.types
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              Last edited by Moving molecules .; 18-03-20, 11:22 PM.


              • #8
                Guys for members that interested in metalshaping the right way ,please watch this video at about 13.50 and 14.34 and 33.32 minutes, then make your own mind on how it should be done ..... If anything this video and all the ones before this on the same subject, will give you instructions on how NOT TO DO IT !


                PS my old wreck wheelbarrow at home looks better than that !
                Last edited by Peter Tommasini; 03-04-20, 02:14 PM.


                • #9
                  Excellent read. The guy seized his fantastic opportunity with both hands. Congratulations to him.


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Jagufisti View Post
                    Excellent read. The guy seized his fantastic opportunity with both hands. Congratulations to him.

                    Speaking of seizing opportunity-

                    The current covid19 restructuring of the world and employment may prove to be opportunity for people who lost employment.

                    My stone apprenticeship was possible due to a permanent layoff from my prior position. I was working in a layoff position as an employment and public benefits specialist for a college while I was developing a culinary education program for the college. In this position, I became fully credentialed as a faculty member of the college and have all necessary background & orientation issues resolved. When that position ended on June 30, I would be immediately rehired on July 1 as the executive chef to oversee that new program. When we ran into eminent domain issues with a neighboring college, the culinary program plans were delayed and I was laid off. We structured my layoff in a manner that made me eligible for all services we offered including retraining benefits. I could change career directions and a significant portion of my training costs may be covered.

                    Between this eligibility and my intimate knowledge of these specifc federal programs, we were able to have 50% of my wages and some tool costs covered during my training period. Normally these benefits only covered 3 months. Due to the unique requirements of carving and sculpting granite, my training period was petitioned and extended to 18 months. Without this sponsorship, it would have been much more difficult if not impossible for me to maximize opportunity and accomplish what I did.

                    if anyone is in a position to take advantage of a similar change in career paths following this economic downturn, a serious move into the metal trades may be more realistic now than ever once things begin to improve. The move would require both an employment position with willing employer and a competent candidate with proper eligibility. I met my Master Sculptor nearly a decade before and moved 1000 miles at my cost with no confirmation of work opportunity. It was not a casual effort, but what I ultimately accomplished was not a casual accomplishment.

                    I'm not familiar with such things outside the USA and only have dated experience to reference now here in the USA. If I can help with any specific questions, feel welcome to contact me directly.
                    Last edited by cliffrod; 03-04-20, 12:24 AM.


                    • #11
                      Link is dead.


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DanB View Post
                        Link is dead.
                        I downloaded it awhile back. I can upload it if you want.

                        EDIT: No need to upload it. Here it is on the new website.

                        To study and further my understanding in the craft of traditional Coachbuilding - Land, Commerce and Logistics — Transport and infrastructure - roads, railways, tollways;Land, Commerce and Logistics — Transport and infrastructure - roads, railways, tollways;Land, Commerce and Logistics — Manufacturing and Business
                        Last edited by Chris_Hamilton; 23-11-21, 12:33 AM.


                        • #13
                          Thank you sir.